Leeds United Online: The Story of PPV, Tweets & Social Media
Monday, August 2, 2010 at 11:06PM Recently I have been fascinated by the ongoing story of Leeds United's digital strategy. While I do genuinely applaud the club for finally taking the plunge into social media and the greater content on LUTV, the results have, so far, been a mixed bag to say the least. I am going to try and approach this from a purely professional point of view, which is a challenge as I myself am a life-long Leeds United fan and season ticket holder.
Background
Lets first of all look at the presence Leeds United have created within social media: Many of the current staff are now on Twitter, this includes the Director of Commercial Activity, Paul Bell, Head of Media Relations, Paul Dews, Yorkshire Radio Presenter, Thom Kirwin, LUTV Presenter, James Stanley. Added to this is the digital radio station owned by the club: Yorkshire Radio.
On Facebook, the club does not have any kind of significant official presence (although I would hope negotiations and planning for this are going on behind the scenes) but there are numerous unofficial Pages such as 'Leeds United' (70k+ members) which unfortunately is outdated and another 'Leeds United' Page (1.5k) here which seems to be much more interesting and is regularly updated. One of our own pages 'Leeds' is another page which regularly discusses the club.
Another factor we must also consider here is the massive presence of Leeds United fans in social media. There are numerous forums including WACCOE and Dirty Leeds where thousands of fans come together to talk, debate and update on everything Leeds United related (and much more sometimes!) There are also many fan blogs such as Travels of a Leeds Fan, The Beaten Generation and The Scratching Shed.
In terms of it's own presence Leeds United obviously has its own website which is a very popular site and ranks as one of the most visited football club sites in the UK. There is also LUTV, an online subscription-based 'TV Channel' featuring news, interviews and highlights from the clubs games. The club also owns Yorkshire Radio: a digital and online radio station which features amongst other things: live commentary of Leeds United games.
So we can see that the club has a significant online presence and seems to be offering a great amount of content and points of interaction to it's core target: Leeds United fans. Unfortunately the execution, marketing and communication around these channels does not quite match up to the massive potential this presence has.
There are many examples I could use to demonstrate where things are going wrong but I will pick just one: The recent 'row' surrounding Leeds United's decision to offer a recent friendly on a Pay Per View basis to it's current/potential LUTV subscribers.
The Story
Recently Leeds United decided to broadcast a pre-season friendly on PPV on LUTV. The decision was taken to charge an extra £5 for the game to subscribers who were already paying £4.99 per month or £40 per year for their LUTV subscription. The decision was immediately greeted with anger by Leeds United fans. The fans pointed to the fact that they were already paying a premium price for LUTV (when you consider Man Utd's comparative MUTV Online is £4.50 per month and £45 for the year, it is a fair point) and this content should be included in their package.
Image courtesy of www.leedsunited.com
The fans also backed up their angry comments with constructive marketing know-how and an alternative for what the club could have done here. I must agree with the rational behind 'cmac34's' comments about missing an opportunity to attract new customers to LUTV. He suggests the club could have offered the PPV game for £5 to non subscribers as a 'taster' or a way to tempt non-subscribers into signing up to the £5 per month LUTV in the hope of impressing them sufficiently in the first month to then keep that subscription going after the initial month.
The Response
Now whether or not I agree with the decision to charge for pay per view makes no difference to the subsequent fall out from the decision. Leeds United employees were hit with a barrage of questions and comments on Twitter, most noteably the club's commercial director Paul Bell. This is someone who had previously spoken in the form of guest blogs of his eagerness to use social media to engage fans and encourage them to come to the stadium earlier so as to increase their 'spend per head' at Leeds United games.
Suddenly as the criticism reigned in, Mr Bell seemed to disappear from Twitter and seemingly ignored fan's reactions and questions about the PPV decision. I personally tweeted the LUTV presenter, James Stanley, who privately messaged me telling me I should contact the club by email. At this point I explained to James that I had offered to meet Mr Bell on numerous occasions to discuss social media and Leeds United over a coffee: his reaction: to 'unfollow' me and with it his private messages disappeared... not really the reaction I had anticipated.
The Chairman's Response
Perhaps the problem and approach can be traced right back to the inner workings of the club. I think the current approach and strategy is perfectly illustrated by this quote from the club's chairman: Ken Bates, when asked about LUTV and PPV (Thank you to @andrewhaigh who transcribed the following from a radio interview with Mr Bates and posted here)
"Well it's interesting because there's a report in the Daily Mail today which says that 99 million people in the United States now only watch TV on the Internet. I think we always end up doing what the Americans are doing anyway, maybe 5 or 10 years afterwards. I think Internet TV is possibly the way forward and of course we have our own LUTV which has been going on that mode of transmission ever since it started. And certainly we at Elland road have a first class studio which enables us to beam our first class quality pictures. We are in fact examining the possibility of putting out an awful lot of our games, if we don't play competitively, live on LUTV. And we are also negotiating with a view to putting games live when they are not chosen by the central TV companies who have the rights to the Football League. It is in face something we are negotiating now. Once again, if we get it right, I think other clubs will follow our lead so that could be an interesting development. Certainly a very exiting one as far as Leeds United are concerned. And I understand there has been a few people, moaners, there are always a few people moaning about the fact that last night was a pay per view game. But there are PPV games on Sky, and on BT and on Virgin. It costs a lot of money to put a game out live. I think a lot of people were expecting that to be included in their £40 package. That's just totally unrealistic. A lot of people want us to reduce season ticket prices and admission ticket prices but at the same time 'why aren't we buying Messi'. The £40 annual fee and £4.99 a month has been unchanged for at least all the time I have been here in 2005 and I think even before that. This is an advanced warning - as we improve our technology, which costs money to enable to transmit Leeds United around the world of course the cost will go up. A large part of the license fee that the subscribers pay goes to the people who are transmit it and collect the money and also to the football league for the rights to use their technology"
My Thoughts
From a social media and brand point of view this really frustrated me. I desperately want to club to excel in this area and the current attitude of completely ignoring comments and quality feedback is depressing. Here you have a brand with a massively loyal 'customer' who wants to engage and help the club. Most brands in any other walk of business would love to have this level of love and input from the very people they are trying to engage.
The club has an amazing archive of content that could be used to engage and build relationships with their target instead of looking for the short-term financial gain. Perhaps a little market research through social media would increase the club's business intelligence and they would notice people independently talking about what they would pay for LUTV on SKY or how they are having trouble connecting to LUTV online. This is sort of feedback and idea generation not usually easily available to normal brands.
LUTV, social media, smart-phones apps, games etc are all things that should be forming part of the club's digital strategy and I repeat what I have said privately to the club: that I am more then willing to sit down for a coffee and throw some ideas around and advise in any way I can.
There needs to be a new approach and view to digital media at Leeds United both in terms of overall digital strategy and in particular to social media, because if the current tactic is to send one-way messages and then ignore and dismiss the feedback, why bother having a presence in social media? It seems to go against the idea of being 'social'
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Reader Comments (11)
Spot on with everything you say there Lee mate, I hope someone from the club is reading this
Hi Hebe,
Firstly, many thanks for the mention above. I have to admit, I'm equally fascinated by social media and have put great efforts into ensuring TSS has a presence on both Facebook and Twitter.
I also posted about the PPV streaming on LUTV, but was a little more impressed by the clubs efforts than yourself. I agree, we have some catching up to do, not least on social networks and interacting with the fans, but with LUTV I think we're definitely on the ball. PPV is undoubtedly the future, and as I mentioned on TSS, a big part of turning multi-million pound brands into billion pound ones like they already have in America.
Best wishes with the site.
Marching on together!
TSS
PS. I don't know if you're aware of a problem with the comments field but it's not displaying correctly at my end. Email me if you need a screenshot.
Hi TSS,
No problem on the mention, I really like what you guys are doing!
I think that building the clubs online presence and mini-media-empire is most definitely a good thing. We should have LUTV and the fact that further investment and effort has gone into this is a good thing for the club both now and moving forward. I do think however when it comes to PPV we have made a mistake. The reason the American sports franchises have been able to build their platforms so well and sell PPV comes from having a completely different history and culture of PPV. Perhaps one day the UK football audience will embrace it but right now I think it is too soon. However I do think offering people PPV who do not subscribe monthly is a good way to begin introducing the concept to Leeds United fans.
I just think that having people in charge of the clubs digital strategy who clearly have no clue about digital strategy is showing here. I am sure Mr Bell does a good job at attracting sponsors to the club and building B2B links, but as far as digital strategy goes, perhaps this is not his strong poing: we all have strengths and weaknesses.
It is great to see you have a good social presence and virtually every serious brand in the world is either participating and contributing on these platforms or is devising a strategy: again this is somewhere where Leeds United as a brand could perhaps manage a little better.
Thanks for the comment (I will definitely look at the comments field display now!) and good luck with your site too, sites like yours will become more and more important with every month that passes!
MOT
Lee
that transcript just proves that captain birdseye hasn't got a clue?
warning fans about price increases? I'm sure his head of retail is cringing at this moment in time.
5 or 10 years behind the US? the uk pioneered the internet.
the more i read the more i wonder if he is too old to grasp it.
Hi Lee, thanks for the kind words.
Firstly, I should have probably elaborated on the comments field issue a little rather than leaving you to guess! It's a colour thing that's the problem at my end. There's an dark brown background on it which makes it hard (impossible) to read the field headers.
Returning to the point, I agree Leeds are probably missing a trick with regards to social media. Other clubs are proving very successful with this, and the most ridiculous thing about it is that it's an easy and quick platform to advertise the brand from. The lack of fans interaction that's available through the site is something I've emailed them about previously and they assured me that these features were coming - this was two seasons ago if memory serves! The whole website is pretty tragic when you look at other clubs efforts. They're even missing the most basic options like an RSS subscribe button and share options.
I'm convinced PPV is the future, if not nationally, then certainly for overseas fans where a club like Leeds United can make an absolute killing. I know if I was exiled abroad, I'd quite happily stump up the cash for my weekly fix of LUFC!
Shofty:
If scrutinised there are few things in there that do not quite add up: 99 million US people ONLY watch internet TV? Do SKY still offer PPV football games? Has LUTV always been £40 / £4.99 since 2005? hmmmmm
TSS:
It is a same really that we have fallen so far behind in certain areas: I remember when Liverpool created a brilliant fan page on Facebook (working directly in partnership with Facebook) which was innovative and really tapped into the buzz around Facebook at that time. We seem to still live in the past a little bit in that the Leeds United homepage is be all and end all. I do not subscribe to the current way of thinking that the 'dot com is dead' but for sure moving forward it only forms one part of a brands communication strategy.
I actually lived in Barcelona for 3 years and used to love LUTV. It was £30 for the year and provided me with radio commentary and the ability to look back on random games and goals, so I can definitely testify that for the international Leeds fan it is a must have.
I know the club like to create this 'us against them' feeling and the 'pay to be a fan' but it is short term thinking. If we get people involved and invested in our 'digital world' at the moment, long term the benefits will be massive!
ps - have changed the comments box, does it look ok now? :)
LUTV did used to be cheaper: FACT
Hi again Lee,
I think it's safe to conclude we both think Leeds United are missing a trick here. It's a shame, but let's hope someone twigs on sooner or later and starts taking advantage of the possibilities.
The comments field is much better!
Cheers,
TSS
Where to start? This is a club that is actively turning against it's own supporter base. Alienating them (eg. Scandinavian Whites/LUDO). Overcharging them for a weak product (we don't want Messi, we just want better than what you're serving up). Ignoring complaints and unwilling to enter into any discussion).
LUFC can stick any social media platform as far as I'm concerned. All they'll do is use it to sell, sell, sell. Have you heard Yorkshire radio? Have you seen the oversized advert dangled over the East stand?
When will you be able to listen to Leeds live on your iphone/ipod touch/ipad, as a fully paid up member of LUTV ? It's ridiculous that it isn't available - I have to work a lot of Saturday day shifts, as a bar manager. I would love to be able to pop in the earphones and continue to work whilst listening to the commentary.
Does anyone know anything about any developments in this area ??
There has been a new lufc app launched this week. Check out the details on the Leeds United official site. Agreed though it is only about 2 years late getting here!